MkIV,
V & VI Turret Variations.
By C.
Shillito
This
document seeks to identify some of the variations encountered with Churchill
Tanks fitted with the Mk.IV cast turret. Diagrams have been prepared as
the result of the study of many photographs and some suggestions for some
of the differences/changes encountered are put forward for consideration
and discussion. The diagrams shown below are not a definitive illustration
of all the permutations and variations that existed, simply a record of
what I have observed from the study of photographs. To help assist in
the classification of the various turret configurations I have assigned
a type designation - this is entirely of my own creation and does not
represent, or imply the existence, any official designation.
The diagrams
below use the following symbols:
Figure 1. Type A
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The layout shown
in Figure 1 is that used on the first Mk.IV turrets and corresponds
closely with that of the welded Mk.III turret (although with only
one periscope). The ventilator is positioned to the front left near
to the lifting attachment point (at the edge) and vane sight attachment
point. At the rear of the turret are two aerials, the left hand
being for the A Set the right the B Set. At the rear edge in the
centre is a lifting attachment point. Adjacent to the periscope
is the 2" bomb thrower aperture in front of which is another
lifting attachment point. Photographic evidence would suggest that
all Churchills with the shorter barrelled Mk.III 6-pdr had turrets
of this configuration. Up-gunned Mk.VI 75mm and AVREs can also be
found using this configuration.
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In
Figure 2 we see a later variation on Figure 1. The ventilator
is moved over to the right slightly and is now mounted inside
a protective lip. Perhaps the ventilator was moved because in
its original position it would cause fumes to be drawn across
the gunner’s position.

Figure 3.
Figure 3.
Shows a Mk.IV AVRE turret at the Combatton Combat Collection.
On this example the PLM mounting point is not present.
The photograph
on the right shows the distinctive rear overhand that both type
A and Type B turrets have. There is some evidence to show that
this may have originally contained a series of air vents at the
rear of the turret.
Churchills
armed with both Mk.III and Mk.V 6-pdrs are found using this layout
as well as AVREs and up-gunned 75mm tanks
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Figure 2. Type B
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Figure 4. Type C
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Courtesy
Hanno Spoelstra
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Courtesy
Hanno Spoelstra
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Courtesy
Hanno Spoelstra
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Courtesy
of Steve Tegner
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Figure 4. shows
the final turret configuration found on MkIVs. This turret is also
that upon which Churchill Mk.Vs and MkVIs we based.
The ventilator
has moved again and is now almost mounted centrally. Clearly
with the ventilator in this position, the Mk.IV map shelf, usually
underneath the turret roof above the main armament (see Mk.IV
stowage diagrams) would have to have been removed or relocated.
Aside from the
obvious changes of ventilator position and mantlet aperture shape
the turret was totally reshaped around the base to incorporate into
the casting a protective ring around the the turret ring (shown
in red opposite). On the right hand side of the turret there was
insufficient width to continue and so an armour plate was bolted
to the outside of the turret to over the turret ring in this area.
Hanno's photo shows the mounting points for this plate and the protective
ring is clearly visible below the right hand attachment point and
extending right out to the front face of the turret. This casting
subtly affects the appearance of both the front of the turret (see
photo opposite) and the lower left hand side which now has a noticeable
rounded bulge.
The downward
overhang at the rear of the earlier turrets has now been removed
giving much more clearance at the back.
Whilst all Mk
V Turrets are of this configuration there is also photographic evidence
showing this type of turret on MkIVs, AVREs and even NA75s. It may
be that 'wider' use of this turret type was due to confusion of
the numbers of close support tanks required which lead to an over
production of turrets. However, I feel that the change was more
significant and that the Type C was introduced as the production
standard on the later production MkIV and MkVI tanks.
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Figure 5. represents
a configuration seen in only a few photographs (possibly of the
same vehicle) but is also, intriguingly, shown in the stowage diagrams
for the Mk.V (see Mr. Churchill's Tank). This would appear to represent
a turret of the type B that has subsequently had its ventilator
repositioned and a blanking plate placed over the original aperture.
It may be that this configuration only applied to prototype Mk.Vs
or perhaps came about during a shortage of available Mk.V turrets
resulting in Mk.IV turrets being used instead (indeed the Mk.V stowage
diagrams show a Mk.IV turret mantlet aperture). Note that whilst
this diagram shows some similarity with those of the NA75 below,
a modification from a NA75 to a Mk.V is highly improbable.
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Figure 5. Type D
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Mk
VI & Mk XLT
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At the beginning
of 1943 it was expected that the Churchill production run would
come to an end sometime in the summer after 3500 vehicles had been
produced. Vauxhall were then to manufacture a version of the Cromwell
and built to their own drawings. Vauxhall estimated that the transition
to Cromwell production would not be complete until early 1944 and
so suggested that an order for a further 500 Churchills should be
placed in order to keep their production facilities fully employed
during the changeover period. The War office duly placed the order
but specified that as many as possible of the new order should be
equipped with the QF 75mm gun in a geared elevation mount. These
tanks were designated Mk.VI but as a parallel exercise Mk.IIIs and
Mk.IVs were also up-gunned to mount the 75mm but with free elevation.
It would seem likely that there were relatively few (242 or so)
Mk.VIs produced with considerably more Mk.IIIs and Mk.IVs being
up-gunned.
By May 1943
the Churchill had proved a success in Tunisia and as a direct result
an order for a further 1000 was placed thereby ensuring that Vauxhalls
would never switch to Cromwell production. Vauxhall's 'Cromwell'
efforts did not go to waste however as it would seem likely that
many elements of their proposed design and manufacture found there
way instead into the Mk.VII Churchill not least the composite cast/welded
turret. By the time the Mk.VIs came into production in late Autumn
(November) 1943, the Mk.VII design was nearing completion and so
many components and stowage arrangements were integrated into the
Mk.VI.
Whilst there
are plenty of photographs of 75mm gunned Mk.IV tanks in North West
Europe it is often difficult to ascertain whether these are Mk.IV
(75mm) or Mk.VI. These vehicles are often covered in additional
track links that make the identification of the turret components
difficult.
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Figure 6. Type E
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Figure 6. shows
a typical Mk.VI turret. As the MkVI was effectively the last in
the line of the MkIVs the turret is based upon a Type C (a 75mm
armed tank with a type A or B turret will not be a MkVI but a MkIV
75!!). The cupola and loader's hatches have been replaced by the
latter pattern as found on the initial builds of Mk.VII tanks. Note
that the later All Round Vision (ARV) cupola is not fitted, but
rather the twin periscope cupola with reinforcing 'strengthening
struts mounted on the top of the hatches. The aerial configuration
matches that of the Mk.VII which incorporated a WS No. 38 allowing
communications with infantry units. The No.38 Set aerial is installed
on the right, the main WS No.19 on the left and the WS No.19 Troop
set aerial now mounted between them.
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Figure 7. represents
a Mk.VI turret that has been fitted with the later ARV Cupola. There
is some controversy over this configuration as some researchers
attribute the fitting of the ARV cupola only to the Mk.XLT. In reality
the ARV cupola was an easy upgrade that could quite easily have
been made in the field. The appearance of an ARV cupola cannot alone
be used to Identify any particular Mk. of Churchill.
The specification
of a Mk.XLT probably requires further explanation. In July 1944
Vauxhall put forward the following suggestions for future reworking
of Churchills:
"In
about 4 - 5 months time Messrs. Vauxhall Motors will introduce into
all re worked tanks:-
- Frontal
armour to the Heavy Churchill basis (excepting the toe plate).
- Heavy
Churchill turrets.
- Appliqué
side armour.
- Modifications
to traverse gear, suspension and gearbox, in order to bring them
in line with the Heavy Churchill.
The result
of this will be that in 4 - 5 months time all re worked Churchills
will have immunity comparable with the present Heavy Churchill and
the maximum speed of the vehicle will be reduced to give a performance
comparable to the existing Heavy Churchill."
Vauxhall's proposals
were duly accepted and form the basis for the Mk.IX (reworked Mk.IV),
Mk.X (reworked Mk.VI) and Mk.XI (reworked Mk.V) specifications.
It would appear that the proposal to use Mk.VII turrets was rarely,
if ever, applied and so rework vehicles retaining their original
cast turrets carried the suffix LT (Light Turret). Given the original
plan to use Mk.VII turrets it would therefore seem reasonable to
assume that all LT variants would have been upgraded to Mk.VII configuration
i.e. with ARV cupola.
According to
David Fletcher (Mr. Churchill's Tank), the frontal armour upgrade
was to be achieved by fitting a Mk.VII type glacis, implying that
a 'true Mk.XLT' would possess circular machine gun and driver's
visor apertures. To date no photographs of a vehicle exhibiting
all these characteristics has been discovered. There are however
examples of 75mm armed Mk.IVs fitted with varying combinations of
ARV cupola, strengthened suspension and appliqué armour.
Whether to classify these as Mk.VIs, Mk.XLTs or experimental prototypes
represents something of a dilemma.
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Figure 7. Type F
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NA
75 Conversions
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Figure 8. shows
how the Mk.IV turret layout was initially adapted as part of the
NA75 conversion.
The Sherman
armament used a periscopic sight for the gunner and the easiest
conversion was therefore achieved by using a turret of type B turret
as the ventilator aperture was aligned in just the right place for
this sight. The ventilator was relocated replacing the right hand
periscope. For those interested in learning more about the technicalities
of the NA conversion see our N.A.75
Article.
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Figure 8. Type BNA
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Figure 9. Type CNA
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Figure 9. represents
a well-documented NA75 conversion.
Here we have
a type C turret (as identified by the central ventilator and turret
ring protector plate) with an aperture cut for the periscopic sight.
As it would not seem reasonable to convert a Mk.V to a NA75 given
their rarity (and late appearance in the Italy) the existence of
this type of NA75 is proof that by early 1944 MkIVs were being produced
with this type type of turret. Indeed this turret style appears
to have been preferred for NA75s and this may be explained by a
comment in the report on the initial trials of the prototype NA75
that criticised the ability of the ventilator to clear fumes from
the turret. Having the ventilator mounted in the loaders periscope
aperture as in fig. 7 would cause the fumes from the Besa to be
drawn right across the turret to the loaders position. Having a
central ventilator would certainly cure that problem
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Summary
of Turret Types Used
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A
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B
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C
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D
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E
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F
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BNA
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CNA
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Mk.IV
6-pdr (Mk.III)
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Mk.IV
6-pdr (Mk.V)
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Mk.IV
(75mm)
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Mk.IV
AVRE
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Mk.IV
NA75
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Mk.V
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Mk.VI
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Mk.XLT
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Thanks
to Steve Osfield for help and advice offered during the preparation of
this article.
© Chris Shillito 2002, 2004
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